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Thistledown Race 4 - Race 4 - Claiming

SECRET TROUBLE (1) drifted well back and failed to finish it off last start when fifth, beaten 5 lengths, over 1673m at Presque Isle Downs (Synthetic). Will enjoy a drop in class so he is a major player. ONLY GET'N BETTER (6) improved last start when he worked home well to finish third over 1609m at this track. Faces an easier assignment so he is a major player. VINNY AND LEO (4) did a great job to score by 1.5 lengths over today's course and distance last start to maintain his good form of late. Meets a stronger field but he is up to the task. ROUNDBALL ROCK (3) had been rock-solid with five placings in a row before finishing fifth over 1609m at this track last start. Has good early speed so should take up a forward position. Sure to be thereabouts.

Race Time:6:20 PM

Wednesday, October 8, 2025

Track:Good

Weather:N/A

Prize Money:$0.00

Distance:1609m

Secret Trouble (1)x552561325

Trainer: Nestor Rivera 12 mths 16: 3-3-1

Jockey: Fernando Salazar Becerra

Weight: 54kgs

3 yo Dark Bay/Brown G

Sire: WORLD OF TROUBLE (USA)

Dam: ARTY'S SECRET (USA)

Dam's Sire: Secret Circle

Stats

Prize Money$108,208.00

Avg $$6,763.00

Win %18.75%

Place %43.75%

Career16: 3-3-1

Track5: 1-2-0

Distance2: 0-0-0

Tr / Dist0: 0-0-0

1st Up2: 0-1-0

2nd Up2: 0-0-0

Firm0: 0-0-0

Good0: 0-0-0

Soft0: 0-0-0

Heavy0: 0-0-0

Synthetic7: 2-0-1

Comments

Most recently second last in a small field at Presque Isle Downs on September 15 over 1673m, 5 len behind Calvin's Ride carrying 54kg at $13.40. The race before that sat on the pace when 2nd of 8 at Mountaineer Park on September 3 over 1509m, 1.0 len behind Crowned Jewel with 55kg at $6.60.

Last Starts 23 days since last start

Place	Date	Days	Class	Prize	Track	Dist.	Cnd.	Jockey	Weight	Race Time	In Run	Gate	Result	Margin	Starting Price
5/6	15/09/2025	12	ALLOW OCLM 3U	$62,691.00	Presque Isle Downs	1673m	Fast	Victor Severino	54kg	1:41.20	6-5-5	6	1. Calvin's Ride 2. Maynard 3. Aleman	5.3L	$13.40
2/8	03/09/2025	14	ALLOW OCLM 3U	$27,523.00	Mountaineer Park	1509m	FM	Alexander Chavez	55kg	1:28.17	4-3-2	4	1. Crowned Jewel 2. Secret Trouble 3. Lucky Curlin	1.0L	$6.60
3/5	20/08/2025	8	ALLOW OCLM 3U	$54,264.00	Presque Isle Downs	1673m	Fast	Victor Severino	53.5kg	1:39.54	2-5-3	4	1. Loose Wire 2. Lincoln Highway 3. Secret Trouble	2.5L	$37.30
1/6	12/08/2025	41	CLM 3U	$26,357.00	Presque Isle Downs	1308m	Fast	Victor Severino	53.5kg	1:15.95	4-3-1	6	1. Secret Trouble 2. Camilo 3. Colonel Poppy	2.3L	$7.90
6/6	02/07/2025	16	CLM 3U	$25,994.00	Presque Isle Downs	1207m	Fast	Angel I Diaz	55kg	1:09.66	2-5-6	6	1. Riding A Dream 2. Mr Squeaky Wheels 3. Jimmy The Hat	6.6L	$16.90
5/6	16/06/2025	14	CLM 3U	$32,659.00	Presque Isle Downs	1673m	Fast	W Martinez	53.5kg	1:42.06	3-3-5	1	1. Drunk On Sake 2. Camilo 3. Dr Hyde	8.3L	$10.40

Boldness (2)12276x66x3

Trainer: Nestor Rivera (USA)12 mths 43: 7-8-9

Jockey: Alexander Chavez

Weight: 56kgs

7 yo Grey/Roan G

Sire: BIG DRAMA (USA)

Dam: BOLD TWITCH (USA)

Dam's Sire: Burning Roma

Stats

Prize Money$223,214.00

Avg $$5,191.02

Win %16.28%

Place %55.81%

Career43: 7-8-9

Track1: 0-0-1

Distance19: 4-5-5

Tr / Dist0: 0-0-0

1st Up7: 2-0-1

2nd Up5: 1-1-1

Firm0: 0-0-0

Good0: 0-0-0

Soft0: 0-0-0

Heavy0: 0-0-0

Synthetic6: 0-0-1

Comments

Second-up. First-up after two months 3rd of 7 at this track on September 25 over 1106m, 2.75 len behind Aye Aye Sir with 56kg at $14.90. Previously second-up second last of 7 at Presque Isle Downs on July 21 over 1673m, 15 len behind Triple Start carrying 56.5kg at $5.10.

Last Starts 13 days since last start

Place	Date	Days	Class	Prize	Track	Dist.	Cnd.	Jockey	Weight	Race Time	In Run	Gate	Result	Margin	Starting Price
3/7	25/09/2025	66	CLM 3U	$26,758.00	Thistledown	1106m	Good	Alexander Chavez	56kg	1:04.75	7-4-3	2	1. Aye Aye Sir 2. Stormin'unclejack 3. Boldness	2.8L	$14.90
6/7	21/07/2025	18	CLM 3U	$18,349.00	Presque Isle Downs	1673m	Fast	H Villa-Gomez	56.5kg	1:42.10	7-7-6	4	1. Triple Start 2. Round Of Applause 3. Grey Charmer	15.0L	$5.10
6/7	03/07/2025	167	CLM 3U	$25,994.00	Presque Isle Downs	1673m	Fast	H Villa-Gomez	56kg	1:41.16	5-6-6	7	1. Burnin Turf 2. Count Of Amazonia 3. MacKenzie's Novva	9.0L	$12.70
6/6	17/01/2025	47	CLM 4U	$35,484.00	Gulfstream Park	1609m	SP	L Panici	54.5kg	1:38.64	1-4-6	1	1. Bringer Of Rain 2. Royal Act 3. Supreme Dominance	7.8L	$7.80
7/7	01/12/2024	21	CLM 3U	$33,486.00	Gulfstream Park	1609m	Fast	Emisael Jaramillo	56kg	1:39.40	4-6-7	5	1. Santos To Wilson 2. Bold Looker 3. Royal Act	20.8L	$3.80
2/7	10/11/2024	43	CLM 3U	$33,486.00	Gulfstream Park	1609m	Fast	Leonel Reyes	56kg	1:37.53	5-2-2	3	1. Royal Act 2. Boldness 3. Burning Man	2.3L	$3.70

Roundball Rock (3)x211233335

Trainer: Oscar Romero 12 mths 19: 3-3-7

Jockey: Luis Batista

Weight: 56kgs

5 yo Dark Bay/Brown G

Sire: MASTERY (USA)

Dam: CAUSIN COMMOTION (USA)

Dam's Sire: Mineshaft

Stats

Prize Money$90,241.00

Avg $$4,749.53

Win %15.79%

Place %68.42%

Career19: 3-3-7

Track5: 0-1-3

Distance12: 3-2-3

Tr / Dist3: 0-1-1

1st Up3: 0-1-1

2nd Up3: 2-0-1

Firm0: 0-0-0

Good0: 0-0-0

Soft0: 0-0-0

Heavy0: 0-0-0

Synthetic3: 0-0-1

Comments

At the latest run ran last in a small field at this track on September 17 over 1609m, 14 len behind Superwolf with 54kg at $11.90. Before that tracked the speed and boxed on steadily 3rd of 8 at this track on September 9 over 1207m, 4 len behind P H Factor carrying 56kg at $4.20.

Last Starts 21 days since last start

Place	Date	Days	Class	Prize	Track	Dist.	Cnd.	Jockey	Weight	Race Time	In Run	Gate	Result	Margin	Starting Price
5/5	17/09/2025	8	ALLOW 3U	$42,813.00	Thistledown	1609m	Fast	L A Batista	54kg	1:38.12	4-3-5	3	1. Superwolf 2. K Kid 3. Private Moment	14.5L	$11.90
3/8	09/09/2025	22	CLM 3U	$25,382.00	Thistledown	1207m	Fast	Erik Barbaran	56kg	1:10.25	2-2-3	8	1. P H Factor 2. Auger 3. Roundball Rock	4.0L	$4.20
3/6	18/08/2025	15	ALLOW 3U	$48,682.00	Thistledown	1207m	Fast	L A Batista	54kg	1:10.25	6-2-3	1	1. Midnight Majesty 2. Charleston 3. Roundball Rock	4.3L	$16.20
3/6	03/08/2025	31	ALLOW OCLM 3U	$27,907.00	Mountaineer Park	1408m	FM	L A Batista	54.5kg	1:22.37	2-1-3	1	1. Too Fracing Lucky 2. Valentine Bug 3. Roundball Rock	1.8L	$9.80
3/7	03/07/2025	21	CLM 3U	$25,382.00	Thistledown	1609m	Fast	R A Perez	56kg	1:39.71	5-2-3	4	1. Law Of The Jungle 2. Strike Appeal 3. Roundball Rock	0.3L	$12.70
2/6	12/06/2025	20	CLM 3U	$25,816.00	Thistledown	1609m	Fast	R A Perez	56kg	1:40.03	4-2-2	5	1. Royal Dragoon 2. Roundball Rock 3. Star Entertainer	1.3L	$10.00

Vinny And Leo (4)212x351121

Trainer: J L Radosevich 12 mths 14: 4-4-2

Jockey: Luis Rivera

Weight: 56kgs

4 yo Chestnut G

Sire: GOOD MAGIC (USA)

Dam: SHE BE CLASSY (USA)

Dam's Sire: Toccet

Stats

Prize Money$100,736.00

Avg $$7,195.43

Win %28.57%

Place %71.43%

Career14: 4-4-2

Track9: 4-3-1

Distance6: 4-2-0

Tr / Dist6: 4-2-0

1st Up3: 0-0-1

2nd Up2: 0-1-0

Firm0: 0-0-0

Good0: 0-0-0

Soft0: 0-0-0

Heavy0: 0-0-0

Synthetic2: 0-1-0

Comments

Form hard to fault. Comes here off a 34-day let-up. Most recently came from midfield and won by 1.5 len at this track September 4 over 1609m defeating Coastertothemoon with 54kg at $2.50. Before that 2nd of 7 at this track on August 18 over 1609m, 0.5 len behind Only Get'n Better carrying 55kg at $3.30.

Last Starts 34 days since last start

Place	Date	Days	Class	Prize	Track	Dist.	Cnd.	Jockey	Weight	Race Time	In Run	Gate	Result	Margin	Starting Price
1/7	04/09/2025	17	CLM 3U	$22,018.00	Thistledown	1609m	SP	Luis Raul Rivera	54kg	1:40.08	4-2-1	7	1. Vinny And Leo 2. Coastertothemoon 3. Master Of The Nite	1.5L	$2.50
2/7	18/08/2025	47	CLM 3U	$22,326.00	Thistledown	1609m	Fast	Erik Barbaran	55kg	1:39.36	5-3-2	6	1. Only Get'n Better 2. Vinny And Leo 3. Dark Baron	0.5L	$3.30
1/6	02/07/2025	20	CLM 3U	$21,407.00	Thistledown	1609m	Fast	Erik Barbaran	56kg	1:39.87	4-2-1	3	1. Vinny And Leo 2. Coastertothemoon 3. Rule It	3.0L	$2.90
1/6	12/06/2025	51	CLM 3U	$20,995.00	Thistledown	1609m	Fast	Erik Barbaran	54kg	1:40.52	5-2-1	3	1. Vinny And Leo 2. Divine Empire 3. A Bit Of Captain	3.5L	$3.10
5/8	22/04/2025	14	ALLOW 3U	$44,728.00	Thistledown	1207m	Fast	Luis Raul Rivera	54kg	1:11.08	6-5-5	4	1. Brio 2. Cool Couple 3. Classic Richie	16.5L	$11.90
3/5	08/04/2025	190	ALLOW 3U	$41,374.00	Mahoning Valley	1106m	Good	Luis Raul Rivera	56kg	1:06.97	4-4-3	3	1. Polster 2. Classic Richie 3. Vinny And Leo	1.5L	$10.20

Statesboro (5)6775x56266

Trainer: Michelle Winters 12 mths 60: 12-11-13

Jockey: Anthony Rodriguez

Weight: 56kgs

9 yo Bay G

Sire: MAJESTICPERFECTION (USA)

Dam: SUMMER SKY (USA)

Dam's Sire: Oratory

Stats

Prize Money$314,849.00

Avg $$5,247.48

Win %20.00%

Place %60.00%

Career60: 12-11-13

Track21: 4-3-4

Distance20: 6-4-4

Tr / Dist12: 4-2-2

1st Up7: 2-2-2

2nd Up7: 1-1-2

Firm0: 0-0-0

Good0: 0-0-0

Soft0: 0-0-0

Heavy0: 0-0-0

Synthetic9: 2-1-3

Comments

At the latest run ran last in a small field at Presque Isle Downs on September 23 over 1673m, 26 len behind Uncle Truly with 56kg at $60.80. Before that ran last in a small field at this track on September 11 over 1207m, 14 len behind My Buddy B carrying 54kg at $54.70.

Last Starts 15 days since last start

Place	Date	Days	Class	Prize	Track	Dist.	Cnd.	Jockey	Weight	Race Time	In Run	Gate	Result	Margin	Starting Price
6/6	23/09/2025	12	ALLOW 3U	$58,104.00	Presque Isle Downs	1673m	Fast	F Garcia	56kg	1:41.08	3-6-6	3	1. Uncle Truly 2. Shadow Factor 3. Recycle	26.3L	$60.80
6/6	11/09/2025	36	ALLOW 3U	$48,012.00	Thistledown	1207m	Fast	Mauro Cedillo	54kg	1:09.98	4-6-6	1	1. My Buddy B 2. Mr Penny Pincher 3. Rainbow's Pride	14.8L	$54.70
2/6	06/08/2025	27	CLM 3U	$27,907.00	Presque Isle Downs	1207m	Fast	F Garcia	56kg	1:09.32	3-2-2	1	1. Snowname 2. Statesboro 3. Kotylos	2.5L	$29.50
6/7	10/07/2025	8	CLM 3U	$25,382.00	Thistledown	1106m	Heavy	Mauro Cedillo	56kg	1:04.87	7-6-6	6	1. Aye Aye Sir 2. Auger 3. P H Factor	6.8L	$24.40
5/5	02/07/2025	233	ALLOW OCLM 3U	$48,012.00	Thistledown	1207m	Fast	Alexander Chavez	54kg	1:11.22	4-4-5	2	1. Without Objection 2. Sweet As Sin 3. Willtorun	8.5L	$37.30
5/6	11/11/2024	61	ALLOW OCLM 3U	$41,857.00	Mahoning Valley	1207m	M	David J Haldar	56kg	1:11.86	6-5-5	4	1. Inside Stunt 2. Mighty Les 3. Rockstar Ro	9.0L	$33.50

Only Get'n Better (6)2321236163

Trainer: Johanna Urieta 12 mths 43: 6-11-9

Jockey: David Haldar

Weight: 56kgs

5 yo Dark Bay/Brown G

Sire: NOT THIS TIME (USA)

Dam: PORTWENN (USA)

Dam's Sire: Ghostzapper

Stats

Prize Money$181,687.00

Avg $$4,225.28

Win %13.95%

Place %60.47%

Career43: 6-11-9

Track7: 2-1-2

Distance12: 2-4-2

Tr / Dist7: 2-1-2

1st Up3: 0-1-0

2nd Up3: 1-0-1

Firm0: 0-0-0

Good0: 0-0-0

Soft0: 0-0-0

Heavy0: 0-0-0

Synthetic0: 0-0-0

Comments

At the latest run in a small field at this track on September 26 over 1609m, 2 len behind My Brother Cam with 55kg at $7.20. Before that ran last in a small field at this track on September 3 over 1609m, 6 len behind Counteveryblessing with 56kg at $10.40.

Last Starts 12 days since last start

Place	Date	Days	Class	Prize	Track	Dist.	Cnd.	Jockey	Weight	Race Time	In Run	Gate	Result	Margin	Starting Price
3/4	26/09/2025	23	ALLOW 3U	$45,413.00	Thistledown	1609m	Fast	David J Haldar	55kg	1:39.27	3-4-3	4	1. My Brother Cam 2. Mission Control 3. Only Get'n Better	2.0L	$7.20
6/6	03/09/2025	16	ALLOW 3U	$45,413.00	Thistledown	1609m	Fast	L A Batista	56kg	1:39.75	3-6-6	5	1. Counteveryblessing 2. Dixie's Two Stents 3. Bold Buckeye	6.3L	$10.40
1/7	18/08/2025	41	CLM 3U	$22,326.00	Thistledown	1609m	Fast	L A Batista	54kg	1:39.36	3-1-1	1	1. Only Get'n Better 2. Vinny And Leo 3. Dark Baron	0.5L	$2.30
6/8	08/07/2025	22	ALLOW 3U	$45,413.00	Thistledown	1609m	Fast	L A Batista	54kg	1:39.14	6-6-6	6	1. Brick Ambush 2. Ice Blast 3. Who Da Boss	6.3L	$9.20
3/6	16/06/2025	14	ALLOW 3U	$46,190.00	Thistledown	1609m	Fast	L A Batista	55kg	1:40.48	5-3-3	5	1. Ekati's Way 2. My Brother Cam 3. Only Get'n Better	1.1L	$3.80
2/6	02/06/2025	35	HCP 3U	$31,104.00	Thistledown	1609m	Fast	Jose A Bracho	55kg	1:39.02	5-4-2	4	1. Richiesgotgame 2. Only Get'n Better 3. Strike Appeal	1.5L	$5.30